Bounded, boundless, and the third state

During my relatively recent exposure to Sain Kabeer’s work (beyond the ones like “Chadariya Zini Re Zini” and “Mati Kahe Kumhaar se..” which are everywhere, like air), I came across this one – and it kind of stuck:

हद्द चलै सो मानवा, बेहद चलै सो साध ।

हद बेहद दोऊ तजै, ताकर मता अगाध ॥

Like many of the couplets by the saint, the apparent meaning is simple – if you are seeking the obvious. But the deeper meaning is unfathomable.

The [crude] literal meaning of this one is something like,

The ordinary prefer to remain bounded. The enlightened seek to be boundless. But truly limitless is the wisdom of those who relinquish both.

I think I am very much within the first category. I can imagine the existence of the second state. But what is the third state? If one shuns boundedness, presumably one lands into boundlessness. And viceversa. But how can one shun boundedness and boundlessness both? Does it mean one stops caring about them? Does it mean one is no longer preoccupied with either of the notions? Does one balance the two? How can we go beyond the two? WHAT state would that be????

Let me know if you have a clue!



6 thoughts on “Bounded, boundless, and the third state

  1. rkpurohit says:

    may be the third state is when you work in physical world’s boundary but you don’t feel them inside.

    So, it doesn’t matter to you whether there are any boundaries or not, you just don’t care. 😀

    May be I am repeating something, as I have not read earlier comments, but this is what comes out of my tiny mind.


  2. rkpurohit says:

    Kabir Lines rendered by Abida Parveen, Introduced by non other than Gulzar,

    My Person Favourite, in sense of both singing and thought !


  3. Kshema Prakash says:

    Interesting debate. I like devarshidesai’s reply.
    I think the third state would be that of absolute bliss. The stateof boundedness results in attachment and concern. Likewise, the state of boundlessness or unboundedness results in detachment and sometimes resentment also. But if we choose to be detached after certain extent, i.e., displaying attached detachment or judiciously choose to display both boundedness and unboundedness depending upon the situations, it would probably lead us toa state of liberation where we can experience bliss. Bhagavadgita again….. do your duty and leave the result to the Supreme Divine, I guess.

    Trying to think aloud along with you 🙂


    • Hi Kshema, yes, that is the frame I am in, too. It is from the perspective of experience- not understanding, from the heart and not the head that I am asking what the third state would be. Usually the presence of one state means the absence of its opposite. So, what if both are shunned? CAN they both be??? I am going to do the wondering for quite some time.


  4. Rupa Joshi says:

    Dear Margi, to get the answer of this doha,go to the website and also watch him on sadhna channel at 7.55p.m. Rupaben.


  5. as they say, Bhagavad Geeta has the answer to everything.

    brahmanyaadhaaya karmaani sangam tyaktwaa karoti yah
    lipyate na sa paapena padmapatram ivaambhasaa // 5.10 //

    He who performs actions, offering them to Brahman, abandoning attachment is not tainted by sin, just as a lotus leaf remains unaffected by the water on it.

    to be detached while you are connected to the world.


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